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Del Bosque cierra la puerta: "Es imposible que yo vuelva al Madrid con la actual cúpula".
(Si los socios fuesen de verdad los dueños del club...)
López Caro abre la puerta: "El que no esté a gusto, que se vaya"
(Peligro, ya se ha puesto a jugar como Capello)
El portazo de Michel Salgado: "Estamos viviendo últimamente con un desequilibrio enorme"; "Zidane quiso marcharse a los cuatro meses de llegar".
(¿Por qué se me viene Lorenzo Sanz a la cabeza?)

Y el equipo de Laporta, a trece puntos.

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Anonymous molidevent said...

Ya le comenté en su día Sr Elías que el problema del Madrid ya no es solamente de reequilibrar una plantilla , aquí hay solo una via y dos trenes , el culé va delante con mucha ventaja , por más que el segundo tren acelere aquí solo hay una via , en fin , que hasta que no descarrile el equipo culé no veo solución a corto plazo y lo dice uno que defendió a capa y espada al Sr Rijkaard durante la dificil primera vuelta en su primer año , y es que el Barça tiene una plantilla joven y de calidad y ojo que estos sabran renovarse y fichar lo justo para seguir triunfando ¿ en que me fundamento ? Vann Bommel y Ezquerro , ni un euro y dos muy buenos recanvios , carai si hasta el equipo no titular que juega hoy quedaría de los 4 priemros en la liga......


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11 enero, 2006 19:40  
Blogger Pablo J. Rivera said...

Del Bosque ganaba por los jugadores que tenía, no por ser un crack de entrenador. Vive de las rentas y aun no ha demostrado en un equipo sin tan buenos jugadores que vale sacar lo mejor de cada jugador. No todos los madridistas pensamos que Del Bosque era el mejor, el que ganaba él los partidos y el más guapo.

Si te viene a la cabeza Lorenzo Sanz para que vuelva, ni loco.

11 enero, 2006 20:19  
Blogger Capitán Fórceps said...

A veces, amigo socio 74477, es más importante manejar egos y estrellitas que machacar el 4-4-2 de Lunes a Viernes.
A veces, socio, lo difícil es quedar a segundo plano y darles poderes adicionales a los jugadores a cambio de resultados.
Del Bosque llegó a un 'pacto de caballeros' con su plantilla que benefició infinitamente al club.
Ahí están los meritos de Del Bosque.

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Anonymous paco said...

si estas noticias son de puertas afuera,lo que tiene que ser de puertas adentro, pues el Madrid siempre se ha distinguido por ser bastante opaco en cuanto a dejar ver sus "miserias", cosa correcta y que en otros clubs no es tan posible, por lo cual creo que la crisis es mas profunda de lo que se dice.

Y de Del Bosque, en esto coincido mas con Capitan Forceps, a veces el tener un equilibrio en un vestuario como el blanco es mas dificil de lo que parece, creo que no se le reconocio a este entrenador su labor, ademas, personalmente lo considero todo un caballero.

11 enero, 2006 22:45  
Blogger Príncipe-Indiecito said...

Sí, Del Bosque supo manejar como nadie a todas esas estrellas dentro del vestuario y acomodándolos en el campo. Su único punto negro, en mi opinión, fue no poner los blogs sobre la mesa en el asunto Solari cuando por presiones de la cúpula dirigente le tuvo sin jugar unos cuantos meses porque no se quiso marchar al Inter en el intercambio (negrero) que acordó el amigo Floren. Y eso que Solari había terminado la temporada anterior iniciando la jugada que dio lugar al golazo de Zidane con el que se consiguió la Novena. Pero insisto, único punto negro de una persona enorme en todos los sentidos y que (me juego una cena) quiere más al Madrid que la persona que lo preside "en nombre de sus socios". Por eso sus declaraciones son tan amargas...

Y también da la sensación de que se está volviendo a la etapa de Lorenzo Sanz de caos absoluto y de poner al presidente por encima del club. Malo.

11 enero, 2006 22:55  
Anonymous Sergio Sánchez said...

Lo de Lorenzo Sanz... Mejor no hablo, ¿eh, Elías? Él tiene una idea que le ronda la cabeza, porque sigue con el Madrid entre ceja y ceja. No se cura de ese mal. Del Bosque fue el mejor entrenador que podía haber en su momento; y a los resultados y al juego hay que remitirse (real madrid televisión no hace más que poner partidos de la era Del Bosque, por algo será...)

11 enero, 2006 23:04  
Blogger Pablo J. Rivera said...

Si quere mucho a los jugadores y eso esta muy bien, pero la mano dura le faltó y eso, aunque parezca mentira, también se nota ahora. La mayor aportación como entrenador la dió para ganar la 8ª, recordemos que dejo a Hierro en el banquillo, pero luego no supo preparar físicamente al equipo. No es que lo diga yo ahora aquí, es que era un comentario habitual en la afición del Madrid cuando estaba Del Bosque. Si yo no digo que fuera mal profesional, pero a veces parece que Del Bosque era Dios y sin embargo, en liga, por números, el mejor madrid de la era Florentino fue el del año pasado, lo que indica que el Madrid de Del Bosque no arrasaba.
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Anonymous gordito9 said...

A ver cuando se entera señor Elías y señores contertulios que a muchísimos madridistas nos la trae al pairo que el Barca esté a no sé cuantos puntos
Lo único que nos importa es que nuestro equipo ganen partidos.
Los aficionados culés que disfruten mientras puedan.
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12 enero, 2006 09:54  
Anonymous Christian said...

Con Del Bosque se está dando una deificación muy similar a la de Capello, aunque al menos el salmantino marcó sí marcó una época en el club.

Yo creo que Del Bosque tenía el mérito de saber mantener el vestuario tranquilo. Sus decisiones sólo afectaban a los que no podían quejarse (como Casillas), mientras que a las vacas sagradas rara vez las tocaba.

Que Real Madrid TV ponga partidos de la época de Del Bosque dudo mucho que se deba al juego. Sólo en su primera liga el equipo jugó realmente bien y con una relativa continuidad. A partir de ahí todo fueron chispazos de vez en cuando. Tuvo la suerte de encontrarse con un grupo de jugadores excepcional y que estaban en su mejor momento. Y además, en España le vino de maravilla el hundimiento del Barça durante esos años.

Sus títulos están ahí y probablemente era el entrenador más adecuado para la plantilla que tenía, pero si ahora se quiere cambiar el estilo de juego y la política de fichajes, me parece que Del Bosque no tiene sitio.

Muchos podrán alegar que sin él no se ha ganado nada en el Madrid, pero las transiciones siempre son duras y, personalmente, creo que si el equipo en algún momento llega a jugar como juega el Barça ahora, estos dos años (de momento) sin títulos habrán valido la pena.

12 enero, 2006 10:14  
Blogger cucaracha said...

recuerdo que del bosque cuando era entrenador del madrid era apaleado por la critica sin piedad, se decia que no tenia nivel para ser entrenador del madrid, que los jugadores eran los que mandaban, que tenia planteamientos obsoletos...

no me gusto que fuera pidiendo 500 millones limpios por temporada... el madridismo, por lo visto, tiene un precio.

si tan buen entrenador es del bosque, deberia haber utilizado la salir del madrid de un equipo campeón y haber demostrado lo bueno que es...

a mi me parece como bianchi... y es lo que demostró en su periplo por turquia... que lo mejor del real madrid no se fué con su salida.

yo no lo sentí, tal vez sentí mas la salida de redondo o de hierro, aunque al final está claro que eran necesarias sus salidas.

yo creo que el problema no a sido todo lo que se a marchado, si no todo lo que a llegado... y no a llegado.

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